Mar 31, 2016 Enter the Edirol Virtual Sound Canvas, modeled after the ubiquitous Roland synth of the same name. Get world-class GM/GS sounds, seamlessly integrated into your DXi-compatible Cakewalk program. Highlights of the Virtual Sound Canvas. Almost 1000 sounds including percussion, acoustic, and electronic instruments. The Roland Virtual Sound Canvas (DXi version) is a software synthesizer that ships free of charge with Band in a Box. Installing the VSC DXi During a regular installation to HD there's an option to install the Roland VSC DXi. If you are running BiaB from a USB HD then there is an option to.
Hi,I had to get a new laptop and now I'm on win7 instead of XP. I reinstalled BIAB 2008.5 and unfortunately the sound canvas won't install. I tried different versions of it and nothing works.The onboard wave table sounds really bad.
I do have bandstand but I remember when I had it installed on my XP laptop a couple of years back that I had all kinds of trouble with it and the sound wasn't so incredible and it took a long time to load.My version might not even be compatible with win 7.I think vista is the latest that's listed on the box.So I'm looking for an alternative. I did a few searches but I have not come up with anything.Could you guys make a few recommendations? I'm just using the laptop for lessons not any recording and am looking for something fairly simple and basic.#111031 - 04/08/11 08:30 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows Re: alternative to virtual sound canvas in win 7?. Hi gimmeagig,Sounds like you now have a 64-bit operating system. There have been a large number of posts in this forum about how Sound Canvas will only work on 32-bit systems (including Win 7, 32-bit). Here's a some information about it.Given that you have BIAB version 2008.5, the best solution would be to consider buying Coyote Forte. The link below will give you some information on this.The current version of BIAB ships with Coyote Wave Table; this functions similarly to Sound Canvas.
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Unfortunately, my understanding is that the above wave table does not work with 2008.5. (If you dropped PG Music a quick email, they'd soon tell you.)Hope this helps,Noel. Well the wave table sort of uses the stuff in Microsoft wrapped up. Not too bad, not great. Figure out the two products.I have basically 4 out board synths.
Or 5.Like a Ketron SD2 (sold here).A Roland JV1010My Roland keyboard.w50 sort of retired.A Yamaha generic thing.And my New Korg.I almost never use midi anymore, Realtracks. Check out the all real tracks styles.The some all midi styles.Then listen to the midi demos, and decide where you want to go.Other alternatives are available, exploring hardware synths, and software synths.The world is an oyster, search for pearls. Quote:Hi,I'm just using the laptop for lessons not any recording and am looking for something fairly simple and basic.+1 on the fairly simple and basic for BIAB. Anything else gets problematic very quickly.
For that reason, I highly recommend the old Roland TTS-1 that comes with Music Creator 5. At $40.00, I think it's the best 'bang for buck' for a pretty much hassle free synth for BIAB. For your daw, if money is tight, I recommend the free synths from IK Multimedia (SampleTank), Native Instruments (Kontakt) and Yellow Tools (Independence Free). Registration, downloading and getting them going can be pretty time consuming but the price is certainly right and there's a ton of good sounds there-all easy to use in your daw.
If you only want one of them I recommend SampleTank.#111035 - 04/09/11 10:49 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows Re: alternative to virtual sound canvas in win 7?. Hi gimmeagig,If you've just done a fresh install of 2008.5, be sure to visit the update page and download and install the last build update:Quote:Summary of Changes for Build 281 (December 30, 2008)Added: Higher Bank Patch Support added. (Support for Higher bank Patches, names displayed, Change of patch at any bar (f5), songs and styles can be stored with these patches).
If you use a synth like the Ketron, and like to use higher patches that are not GM or GM2, then these features should be useful to you.Improved: OpenPrefsFile, insures certain values are set to defaults (mainly useful when loading in older versions of prefs)Fixed: Undo-Open Prefs File now has correct label 'Undo Open Preferences'Fixed: Render was sometimes regenerating some tracksImproved: Freeze/Unfreeze improved. Generates the bt0 stretch file at end of freeze, better messages, faster.Added: Verify RealTracks, RealDrums option added. Accesses as a button in the RealTracks Settings dialog.
This utility function checks current RealTracks& RealDrums folders. It verifies that File dates are the same, and BT0 (tempo stretch) files are correct. It takes 5 minutes, and produces a report in a Checkbt0.txt file (notepad).Fixed: F5 dialog, entering style changes was not working in some builds. This is one reason why I prefer external hardware synths to software synths.Synths I bought in the pre-Windows 3.1 era still work today.
I these have ancient, pre-General MIDI synths; Yamaha TX81z, Roland MT32, and Akai S900 that are still useful to me today, even though I bought them when I was using an Atari/ST computer for my sequencing and the PC was still DOS based.Since then I've added more MIDI synths and instead of losing the old sounds, I just gain more sounds to choose from, so the possibility increases that I can get just the right sound for each song.I'd advise getting a good, outboard MIDI sound module, and forget about the soft synths. Computer technology will change rendering all present software obsolete and orphaned. MIDI seems to have some great staying power.Insights and incites by Notes ♫. Quote:Quote:Hi,I'm just using the laptop for lessons not any recording and am looking for something fairly simple and basic.I highly recommend the old Roland TTS-1 that comes with Music Creator 5.
At $40.00, I think it's the best 'bang for buck' for a pretty much hassle free synth for BIAB.+1 for TTS-1, I consider that a big improvement on the VSC Platform, with a excellent sounds plus a lot of easy, straightforward tweakability if you want to. Very easy to add a little reverb or chorus to a patch, or change the tone of an instrument if you want to.Another freebie that has a lot of good patches is the E-Mu Proteus X synth that is a free download.You're way ahead of me in DAW-ville though, I'm still running XP/SP3 32-bit and no plans to change any time soon.(buries head in sand). I have the Emulator X Studio which includes Proteus. It sounds good except for the one thing you're talking about here and that is it's not GM. It has a GM soundbank but it's the old (older than the VSC I think)Emu soundchip that they put into the equally old 80's Soundblaster soundcards.
It's about as good as the chip on your motherboard, I doubt you're going to like it much. To use the much better non GM Proteus sounds you have to pick what patch you want to use for what instrument in Biab manually. It won't just happen by hitting play like it will with your Ketron or the VSC.As to your question asking why won't someone build a good quality GM synth the answer is nobody cares about GM. It's only there as a convenience for non musicians to play games or listen to occasional midi files embedded in a website. Or, Biab people like us. Pros or semi pros who use audio/midi recording software want the very best sounds they can get and are willing just like Notes does, to pick and choose the best sounds from many different synths. You don't need GM for that.
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There's only a very few good sounding GM soundbanks out there and you already have one of the best in that Ketron. I've also got a ton of hardware and 4 top line softsynth packages but for casual GM use with Biab I like the Forte DXi for $40. To me it's a tad better than the TTS-1 but YMMV of course.Bob. Hi again, gimmeagig,Quote:I'm so surprised that no one has come up with a decent sounding GM softsynth setup specificly for win 7.Just to reiterate my above post, it's not Win 7 that is creating the problem but the fact that your version of Win 7 is 64-bit. (Windows 7 comes in both 64-bit and 32-bit versions.)I also note that a couple of people have recommended TTS-1 which is obtained by installing Music Creator.
As far as I can find out (from both the PG Music and Cakewalk websites), TTS-1 also requires a 32-bit operating system. It would be interesting to know if those who recommended it are using a 64-bit system.Regards,Noel. Quote:The TTS-1 works fine on Windows 7 64-bit. It basically gave me back the sounds I used to have with the Roland Sound Canvas. At $40 for Music Creator 5 (which gives you that application plus the TTS-1 and other stuff), not a bad deal. Of course, the Forte DXi is an option, also at $40.Hello John,I have the TTS-1 running biab 2011 build 315 latest. Can't get the TTS-1 to load though It has many times beofre no probs.I get a message saying plugin not supported and that biab can't connect with the TTS-1.I have tried resetting to factory settings in biab but no good.
I have windows 7 32bit. Just wondering if anyone else has similar probs? Maybe I need to reinstall the calwalk software again.thanksMusicloverupdate: reinstalling has got it back. I have never been really that into the TTS-1 as I prefered the roland vsc. Will play around a bit with it since you say it can give similar sounds to the vsc.thanksEdited by musiclover ( 04/11/11 08:38 AM).
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VSC problem - Alternatives?Greetings,I'm trying to use the following programs to get started with my 'home' studio:Sonar Producer EditionFastTrack Pro (M-Audio) 4x4Roland Virtual Sound CanvasThough, a problem occurs: Roland VSC isn't available for my version of windows (win 7 64 bit premium home) - Is there any other program just like VSC out there that would fit into 'Midi output' that Sonar asks when your first start it? I'd love if it was a freeware, though, I'm still interested even though it costs a low amount.If I am anyhow unclear in the past text, please tell me so I can clarify.Thank you,Anthony Dupont. Welcome to the forum.Which Cakewalk program are you running?The DXi version of Edirol (Roland) VSC won't work (in 64-bit OS), but the VST version should.The MIDI Output that SONAR asks you to choose is a physical device (not a soft synth), such as the Microsoft GS Wavetable synth or any other MIDI device connected to the computer, such as your Fast Track. I believe that has MIDI ports. If that's connected to a MIDI keyboard/controller, you can select that. Well, you can select that even if it's not connected to a keyboard.Download Music Creator 6 for $50. That comes with Cakewalk's TTS-1 soft synth and I think it sounds better than the Edirol VSC.
It also includes Cakewalk SoundCenter and Studio Instrument Drums VSTis. If your older program supports the use of VSTs. Older Cakewalk programs did not. Anthony, welcome.This is probably going to seem harsh, but it's for your own good.I hope your av/spyware/malware software is up to date.I can only find the software you have listed on torrent/hacker sites.That's some bad mojo, bud.Sonar PE6 is eight years old. It did not natively support VSTs, and required a separate program to use them.
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This program was included with legit copies.VSTs will not appear in the MIDI I/O options you are looking at.They are treated in a very different manner.I very much join Greg in suggesting you download Music Creator 6.it is designed for your contemporary environment.It is a complete package.It has tutorials and help files.It won't invite a plague of locusts to visit your hard drive.Well worth $50, yes? RobertBSonar PE6 is eight years old. It did not natively support VSTs, and required a separate program to use them. This program was included with legit copies.VSTs will not appear in the MIDI I/O options you are looking at.They are treated in a very different manner.Are you sure about this? Sonar 6PE was the first version that I ever used and as far as I knew VST plugin support was native. At the time (2007), there was talk of a 'VST wrapper' on the forums but I was led to believe that it applied to older versions and not to version 6.
What should I do so it works?The smart-aleck answer would be. Get another computer running 32-bit XP.Roland has some info on the VSC herebut none of it is good for you.except the part where it says the VSC has both DX and VST versions included.You may be able to use it if you install and run the 32-bit SONAR PE and set the OS up to run SONAR in 32-bit compatibility mode.As far as your uncle having the VSC listed as his MIDI device, I don't know how that's done unless at some point he had the hardware VSC.